Posts by Lost in the fog

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November WT study article

by Gorbatchov in

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in one of the study articles from the november 2020 edition, is mentioned (free quotation):.

"don"t get disturbed if your kingdom hall will be sold".

food on the right time, i asume?.

But you do feel sorry for the r&f who gave their time, energy, and finances to build the halls. They were always told that the KHs were part of the goods held in the hands of Jesus (aka the Gov. Body on earth).

There were real efforts to build KHs in each town - only for them to disappear as congregations were merged. People asked us in the ministry "If you are the one true church why aren't you in every town like the other churches?"

Soon people will be asking who JWs actually are because no one will see their presence in the community at all!

As far as letter writing goes what do most people do when unsolicited junk mail is put in the letter box, they toss it out with the rubbish. The only reason for letter writing and cold calling by telephone is so the r&f can report Service Time to the organisation.

It serves no practical purpose outside of that reason.

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2020-08-14 Announcement! (as of 2020-08-15)

by Atlantis in

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2 documents.

2020-08-14 announcement.

one in english and one in german.. .

Lost in the fog

I see that everyone is clamouring for copy?

Personallly I would have to ask nye why!?..

I am out so why would I want you to drag me back. Once gone is gone and the stable door is firmly bolted shut

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Expectation vs Reality

by joey jojo in

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just wanted to put this out there for any lurkers.. as someone that grew up during the 70s and 80s, we were promised that we would be in the first picture long ago.

if you are still on the fence, please let this sink in for a while..

Lost in the fog

I think the Society picks what everyone wishes for and says God's new world will accomplish it.

People long for good health, a roof over their head, food on the table, no more war, etc.

My old aunt, born in 1917, would never go to high school because of the imminence of the kingdom rule. I was told the same thing in the 60s and 70s. Children today are warned off university for the same reason. Gullible? Yes. But brainwashed by the "where else could we go" message.

White Jesus Statues

by Lost in the fog in

saw this on a friend's page.

where will this silliness end?

https://www.themonastery.org/blog/we-should-also-tear-down-statues-of-jesus-activists-say .

Lost in the fog

Saw this on a friend's page. Where will this silliness end?

https://www.themonastery.org/blog/we-should-also-tear-down-statues-of-jesus-activists-say

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Removing Historic Monuments and Statues - Does the Term "Historical" Make it Right or Wrong?

by RubaDub in

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after further review and thought, i really don't see how removing a monument or statue that may be truly offensive to a large group of people is in some way rewriting history.. i think of germany or other parts of europe.

you don't see swastikas on buildings or statues of hitler or mussolini or other upper level generals in public.

would it be good for a person (think jewish) to drive around a city and see hitler in a public park, even though it is "historical?

Lost in the fog

Seen on a friend's page. Where will this silliness end.

https://www.themonastery.org/blog/we-should-also-tear-down-statues-of-jesus-activists-say

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John 5:28,29.

by Lost in the fog in

we used to use this scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection.

but recently i got to thinking about it.

if the apostle paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?

Lost in the fog

We used to use this Scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection. But recently I got to thinking about it.

If the apostle Paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?

JWs would say it was for those who will live on the earth, but did any of the people Jesus said that to believe anything about a resurrection to the earth? Trying to make sense of something I haven't thought about for a long time.

Any one clarify this for me please.

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Cookies.

by Lost in the fog in

i went to have a look at the jw.

org website recently and i was asked if i would agree to accept cookies.

i don't remember being asked that in the past.

Lost in the fog

I went to have a look at the JW. Org website recently and I was asked if I would agree to accept cookies. I don't remember being asked that in the past.

Is it something new with them? And does it make you wonder what they are actually installing on your device to track you?

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Leaked WT Elder Training Video

by Vanderhoven7 in

https://youtu.be/2nacvosx8n0.

good to see the caring brothers help establish depth of guilt..

Lost in the fog

It should be apparent to anyone who has a copy of the elder's school text book. Most of the book is taken up with info on judicial committees whereas shepherding, actually listening to the needs of the flock, doesn't appear until chapter 25 and is so short that you'd almost miss it.

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The Motive of the Governing Body

by jwfacts in

i have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.

however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.

it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.

Lost in the fog

The comment was made earlier in this discussion that the WT / GB says that some people who claim to be of the anointed may be suffering from a mental illness.

This implies that a mental illness would exclude them from any part in the 144,000. But why? If the 144,000 are chosen so as to relate to the experiences of humans on the earth, surely they would have to have a genuine understanding of mental illness as well. And who better than people who had experienced it first hand!

I'd rather have a heavenly government that understands the complexity of what being human means, than a group of people who think that no one can be right with God if they have been ill.

(Not that it matters really because it is a fairy tale anyway.)

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The Motive of the Governing Body

by jwfacts in

i have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.

however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.

it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.

Lost in the fog

Several years ago I had some work to do at a hospital which included being on two wards for the mentally ill. We were not to engage with the patients but get on with the job assignment.

I observed several people who genuinely believed that God or a higher authority was talking directly to them. Several of them were genuinely polite people, who except for their medical diagnosis of either psychosis or schizophrenia or both, looked and spoke like a 'normal' person.

It was later on the thought occurred to me that if you are part of a religion and believe you are God's channel and He speaks directly to you nobody bats an eyelid. Whereas if you are in the wider community and go around telling others the same thing you will likely end up being treated in a hospital ward for the insane for a very long time!